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The Norwegian police came to visit us and Sergeant Twining was present…..

June 11, 2008

….Today I was fortunate to meet some officers and colleagues from Norway. They had come over to see how we were dealing with the aftermath of race relation’s. It was my day off but I shall quite rightly claim the time and the money for the car park ticket damn expensive I tell you. And so we spoke and words of advice were given. This is me being cynical.

They had come over to see just how good the British police service was in relation to race relation’s. We spoke a little bit about support groups, and instead iof re-inventing the wheel I thought I would give them some words of advice about support groups and Liberal hearted managers. The latter are those managers who seem to think they know what is best for Black folk.

Twining’s words of advice for the Norwegians

(1) If they have a BPA type movement make sure that it isn’t only the trusted  few tokens that the Senior Officer’s choose to allow in initially.

(2) It is inevitable that some of the first lot will be the trusted few who may seek any level of promotional gain for themselves.

(3) Puppets and lap dogs are no good for freedom.

(4) Expect an easy ride as some of the chose few have not a clue what they are doing or their purpose.

(5) Expect that they will turn up to meetings and um and arr, whilst everyone else will see them as incompetent.

(6) Don’t think that those Black officer’s that ask questions are problems; they are probably the long term solution. Ensure that Senior Officer’s do not sideline those colleagues that speak out but it is inevitable that they will use those at (3) above to undermine genuine people.

(7) Do not break up the broad Black movement, but expect managers to do this. Having chosen the selected few, and seen their incompetence, the managers wil do their utmost to break them into the Muslim Police Association and further divisions. (Remember what happened in the 90’s when we thought we didn’t understand race; they, the bosses, had us set up the NBPA.)

Now they don’t understand terrorism they are doing the same, hey, set up am MPA ; this will sort this terrorism out. God only knows how terrorists will trust Muslim colleagues bearing in mind the recent attempt to kidnap a Muslim soldier and behead him.

(8) Engage the Somalian and Black community even if they don’t want to engage.

(9) Don’t fear stops; just ensure we do stops properly and ethically as in we don’t pick on people.

(10) Expect the development of a race relation’s industry WHICH is a false industry also. THIS WILL CONTINUE FOR 20 OR SO YEARS!

(11) Don’t take challenges MADE TO MANAGERS personally.

(12) Expect Chiefs to locate a selected trusted few Black people in the community. They will scratch the Chief’s back and the Chief will return the favour. Expect all parties concerned to receive awards and sundry for doing nothing except maintaining a false industry. Expect that these people will come from the so called middle classes.

(13) Expect little competence in movements like the commission for racial equality. The selected few will operate from there also.

(14) Do not assume that you will not have your own Stephen Lawrence type murder. This can happen anywhere, and particularly where the above games are being played.

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6 comments

  1. Muslims are a religion not a race (albeit most of them are from the middle east or Pakistan) so if we accept the logic of having special interest groups within the police (BPA, Catholics, women whatever) then you can’t argue Muslims should remain within the remit of the BPA cos they ain’t necessarily going to be “black”.

    If we extend the logic of special interest groups then we should have a White Police Association and maybe a Diverse Race Police Association to deal with the many of mixed ethnicity who resent being pidgeon holed.

    Personally I think you are either a police officer or you are not and the subdivisions are just an excuse for special pleading. Focus should be on people performing the job being race gender and creed “blind” both in dealing with the public and in the internal service relations.

    The person in question is right for recruitment, role assignment, promotion because they individually have what it takes not because they fulfill a quota tick box. Equally in dealing with MOPs do the job without prejudice but recognising the facts (ref the stats on who is more likely to commit what crimes, who is more likely to be the victim of what crimes) not on an artificailly blind PC approach.


  2. You make very little sense and i is extremely difficult to follow the supposed thread of your argument.


  3. Orac, I have tidied this up now….

    Joe, what happened when the British left India just before Independance?


  4. MPA = Muslim Police Association.


  5. Dear Joe,

    Just thought I needed to correct you regarding some points you made. Muslims is not a religion. Islam is the religion. Muslims are those that profess the Islamic religion.

    Secondly, Most of the Muslims are not from the Middle East or Pakistan. Do you know that the country with the largest Islamic population is Indonesia? The are almost 200 million Muslims in Indonesia. China alone has a MUslim minority population of at least 70 million.


  6. Dear Joe,

    Just thought I needed to correct you regarding some points you made. Muslims is not a religion. Islam is the religion. Muslims are those that profess the Islamic religion.

    Secondly, Most of the Muslims are not from the Middle East or Pakistan. Do you know that the country with the largest Islamic population is Indonesia? There are almost 200 million Muslims in Indonesia. China alone has a MUslim minority population of at least 70 million.



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